So do y o u h a v e anymore good s t o r i e s Mr. l i a r t e n y k ? We were
t a l k i n g a b o u t p i c n i c s and d a n c e s and p a r t i e s
a t Richmond
Park i n t h e e a r l y days.
We
got r e a l l y
happy.
When we ? ? ? ? ? ? ? d i d n ' t c o s t u s
n o t h i n g , and Q i e s e l s o n , t h e y b r i n g a l o t y o u know, we h a v e a
good m e a l , y o u know.
How
long
d i d these
parties
m o r n i n g d i d y o u go t o b e d ?

last?

T h e r e was no ? ? ? ? f o r u s .
We
evening
start
getting
after
d a n c i n g t i l l m o r n i ng.

come any t i m e .
supper,
we come

T h i s w o u l d be i n t h e w i n t e r t i m e
I. n

t h e wi nt er t i me y e h .

You

brought

your

No, no e v e r y b o d y
Did

L i k e what t i m e o f t h e
In t h e
and s t a r t

mostly?

team o f h o r s e s and s l e i g h ?
walked.

you?
(J I's/a^a

S u r e , we w o u l d t i e t h e h o r s e s
to trees.
G i tsei«fl l i v e d
o n l y seven
m i l e s , t h e c h i l d r e n were c o m i n g t o s c h o o l s e v e n
m i 1 e s an d more.
That
????????
i t.
???? ???? ??? ???????
c h i l d r e n a c r o s s deep c r e e k .
They came t o t h e s c h o o l .
T h a t must h a v e been b e f o r e t h e y b u i l t

Laura's

school?

In t h e o l d s c h o o l t h a t I b u i l t .
But

later

on t h e y b u i l t

their

own s c h o o l .

Yeh, b u t how many
y e a r s t h e y h a v e t o go. L o t s o f y e a r s i n
t h i s s c h o o l . One t i m e t h e r e was t h e s c h o o l t w e n t y - - f o u r and
t h e r e was one t i m e t h i r t y - s i x k i d s .
In t h e w i n t e r t i m e t h e y
have- t o c h a n g e a l l t h e t i m e .
Every
while
t h e y have t o
change t h o s e
c l o s e r t o t h e s t o v e , go back and t h e y go warm
up.
D i d y o u €?ve*r go on an a i r p l a n e *

ride?

No.
You've never

flown.

Do y o u want t o go on an a i r p l a n e

ride?

Oh I d o n ' t c a r e anymore.
I tell
you, I would as soon as
w a l k b e c a u s e when I go w i t h t h e c a r , s i g h t s e e i n g , y o u know,
when I go t o t h e c o u n t r y
I want
t o see.
I wouldn't g i v e
f i v e c e n t s f o r t h e a i r p l a n e - i f I d i d n ' t have t o .

Qs

They g e t y o u t h e r e f a s t

As

The f a s t e r
y o u go t h e f a s t e r
y o u d i e . That i s true?. You
d o n ' t know n o t h i n g . When y o u go t o t h e c o u n t r y
y o u ?'?? s e e
you c a n t e l l t h e p e o p l e whaxt y o u s e e . When I go t o K e l o w n a ,
o n c e when t h e y t o o k me t h e r e ,
I don't
s t a y , I t e l l them I
don't
stay.
I want t o s e e e v e r y t h i n g a r o u n d , e v e r y t h i n g
that there i s .

Q:

What do y o u t h i n k t h e b e s t t h i n g t h e r e
i s t h e b e s t t h i n g i n our c o u n t r y ?

A:

In Canada.
things.

Q:

A l o t o f bad t h i n g s .
W e l l t h e r e i s a l o t o f bad t h i n g s and
a l o t o f good t h i n g s .
What a r e some bad t h i n g s ?

As

L o t o f good t h i n g s ,
l i k e f o r o l d people
i s v e r y good. I
d o n ' t t h i n k t h e r e i s any p l a c e i n t h e w o r l d f o r o l d p e o p l e .
There* i s o n l y - t h a t ' s what I d o n ' t l i k e l o t s o f o l d p e o p l e
a r e o l d people* t h e m s e l v e s .
How many I know are* b o n e s , t h e y
d i d n ' t c l e a r an acre* o f b u s h , t h e y j u s t ? ? ? ? ? a r o u n d and now
t h e y g e t a f u l l p e n s i o n and e v e r y t h i n g and t h i s fe*llow who
s l a v e s and w o r k i n g h a r d
and now h e ' s g o t a few d o l l a r s i n
b o n d s y o u know, o r s o m e t h i n g , h e ' s c h e c k i n g the* ? ? ? ? t h e n
you
have* t o f i l l
o u t t h e i n c o m e t a x because* y o u h a v e
i nte*r estijm the* bank, s o t h e y c u t y o u r i g h t
away f r o m ? ? ? ? ? .
Because* i f a f e l l o w had s a y f i f t y , h u n d r e d , t h o u s a n d d o l l a r s
t h e r e i s a d i f f e r e n c e * , b u t when y o u h a v e a few t h o u s a n d
d o l l a r s and y o u t a k e y e t from me t h a t ' s n o t r i g h t .
Like* f o r
me I h a v e enough I am s a t i s f i e d .

Qi

E<ut y o u were a p i o n e e r and
p i o n e e r s s h o u l d the*y?

As

They s h o u l d n ' t no.

Q:

But i t i s a good c o u n t r y t h a t s f o r s u r e .

As

Well
I seen
a few c o u n t r i e s b e c a u s e
I was o v e r ? ? ? ? ?
H u n g a r i a , and B u d a p e s t f o r t h r e e y e a r s and I know H u n g a r i a ,
? ? ? ? ? the*r e* i s one H u n g a r i a n , K u t o n a , h e ' s a Hungar i an.
I
was ? ? ? ? ? ? on 1 y f o u r t e e n mi 1 e s from whe*re he l i v e d .

Qs

That was i n W o r l d
War I ?

As

Not even a ye<mr b e c a u s e t h a t was t h e e n d .

Qs

You were p r e t t y young

As

I was e i g h t e e n y e a r s
???????„
The main t h i n g I'm g l a d i s
mine* f a m i l y i s i n t h e b e s t
c o u n t r y , b e c a u s e Canada i s t h e

I

have t o

though.

think

i sin

Canada?

What

b e c a u s e t h e r e i s a l o t o f bad

they shouldn't

tak«* away

from

Whe*n a f e l l o w i s t h a t o l d .

War I ?

How many y e a r s

were y o u

i n World

then.

richeja-land
i n the world.
Canada i s t e n t i m e s r i c h e r t h e n
t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s . The U n i t e d
States ?????????? ??????????
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? o u t , and Canada i s n o t s t a r t e d y e t .
Q:

E-iut maybe w i t h t h e F r e e T r a d e .
t h e F'r ee Tr a d e ?

A:

The F r e e T r a d e
I think
i s going
t o be good.
Because
C o u n t r y , y o u don't f i n d a n o t h e r c o u n t r y l i k e Canada w i t h t h e
States.
You go t o t h e S t a t e s y o u c a n buy g r o c e r i e s f o r
'???'?'? and y o u d o n ' t need p a y m e n t s n o t h i n g and t h e n we g o i n g
t o be f r e e , two c o u n t r i e s a r e suppose- t o be. And t h e y g o t a
U n i t e d S t a t e s t r a d e w i t h J a p a n , A m e r i c a n , Canada d e p e n d s on
t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s , w e l l y o u know y o u r s e l f , b e t t e r
t h e n I do
Canada bought
from t h e S t a t e s l a s t
y e a r f o r a h u n d r e d and
f i f t y b i l l i o n , bought them from t h e S t a t e s , and t h e U n i t e d
S t a t e s bought
for seventy m i l l i o n .
Now I f we a r e g o i n g t o ,
l i k e t h o s e L i b e r a l s and NDP's, t h e y
f i g h t and '???? a g a i n s t
i t b e c a u s e , t h e y f i g h t i t b e c a u s e t h e y know b e t t e r , y e t t h e y
f i n d t h e y want t o be i n t h e p o l l .

Q:

Which i s t h e b e s t p a r t y Mr.

A:

W e l l , M u l r o n e y makes a l o t o f m i s t a k e s , ?'?????
and he t o o k
the
l a n d was b a n k r u p t ,
Canada, when t h e L i b e r a l s t o o k i t
o v e r t h e r e was f i v e h u n d r e d b i l l i o n d e b t s and when t h e y l e f t
t h e r e was two h u n d r e d
billion dollar
d e b t s and one and a
h a l f m i l l i o n o u t o f j o b s b e c a u s e ? ?'? ? ?"?''? a j o b . S e e L i b e r a l
r i a h t w i t h Trudeau.
When he s t a r t r i q h t o v e r , y o u remember
when g i v e two h u n d r e d m i l l i o n t o b u i l d up t h o s e bums.
Those
h i p p i e s , what y o u c a l l them r e p o r t e r s t h e y had a l o t o f work
m a k i n g good
.jobs b e c a u s e t h e y f o l l o w them a l l o v e r and t h e
p e o p l e o f t h e T o r i e s t h e y were a f r a i d even t o go o v e r t h e r e ,
because that
p l a c e e v e r y t h i n g was h i p p i e s .
That c o s t them
Two h u n d r e d m i l l i o n d o l l a r s ,
b e c a u s e he wanted
t h e young
people' t o se-e Canada.
They were v e r y good t o p e o p l e .
He
g i v e them e v e r y t h i n g t h e y w a n t e d .
What t h e y
want some day
t h e y have t o pay f o r e v e r y t h i n g .

Q:

So y o u w a t c h
the
c o u n t r y d o n't y o u ?

A:

I know e v e r y t h i n g .
A l l over
the
i n t e r e s t e d , a l w a y s was i n t e r e s t e d .

Q:

T h a t ' s what y o u do m o s t l y now, p l a y c a r d s ?
Drop--In C e n t r e ?

A:

No, I go a f t e r

Q:

You d on't

A:

S o m e t h i n g s I go p l a y w i t h ? ? ? ? ? ? t h e r e i s o n l y one
p l a y poo 1 . T h a t ' s Tom B-e* ry.

dinner

news,

Have y o u been h e a r i n g a b o u t

Martenyk?

you

know

w h a t s g o i n g on i n o u r
world.

I

still

so

Do y o u go t o t h e

for coffee to the restaurant.

go down t h e r e t o p l a y c a r d s ?
-

guy I go

Qs

So y o u have f r i e n ds t o c orne i n t o y o u r

house?

A:

Y e s , and t h e n my d a u g h t e r

Qs

How many g r a n d c h i l d r e n
suppose.

As

T h i r t e e n g r e a t g r a n d c h i l d r e n and e i g h t
grand c h i l d r e n .
I
feel very
good y e t y o u know b e c a u s e I'm i n my e i g h t i e s I go
down when I'm i n my n i n t i e s .
Just
s i t i n t h e c o r n e r and
r e a d t h e b i b l e -and c r y . I ' l l be n i n t y o r a hundr ed.

comes.

do y o u have - g r e a t g r a n d c h i l d r e n I